
After
interrupting a Bernie Sanders campaign event in Seattle, Black Lives
Matter activists met privately with Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire,
confronting the Democratic frontrunner about her response to the
movement and mass incarceration legislation passed during her husband’s
administration.
The
five activists had hoped to disrupt last week’s event in Keene, N.H.,
but were stopped by the Secret Service — and agreed to meet with Clinton
after her speech.
Video of the exchange shows the former secretary of state defending her record on racial issues.
“I’ve
spent most of my adult life focused on kids,” Clinton said, “to try to
give kids — particularly poor kids, particularly, you know, black kids
and Hispanic kids — the same chance to live up to their own God-given
potential as any other kid.”
Clinton
was pressed about how she plans to address on the campaign trail the
tensions between white police officers and black communities.
“Once
you say that this country has still not recovered from its original
sin, which is true, the next question by people who are on the
sidelines, which is the vast majority of Americans, is ‘So, what do you
want me to do about it?’” she said. “I’m trying to put together in a way
that I can explain it and I can sell it, because in politics if you
can’t explain it and you can’t sell it, it stays on the shelf.”
Clinton
added: “You can get lip service from as many white people you can pack
into Yankee Stadium and a million more like it who are going to say, 'We
get it, we get it. We are going to be nicer.’ That’s not enough, at
least in my book.”
The former first lady was also pressed about what she would do to change American “hearts and minds” about black lives.
“I
don’t believe you change hearts,” she said. “I believe you change laws,
you change allocation of resources, you change the way systems operate.
You’re not going to change every heart. You’re not. But at the end of
the day, we can do a whole lot to change some hearts and change some
systems and create more opportunities for people who deserve to have
them.”
In
an interview with with Yahoo News Tuesday, two of the activists,
Daunasia Yancey and Julius Jones, said they were grateful for the
opportunity to meet with Clinton but were disappointed with some of her
answers.
“We
were looking to hear a personal reflection from her on her involvement
in policies that have targeted black communities in negative ways,”
Yancey told Yahoo News. “Unfortunately that’s not what we heard.
"The
piece we wanted was a personal reflection on her responsibility in
order for us to believe she could take us in a different direction,”
Yancey continued. “Hillary Clinton’s feeling about mass incarceration
and anti-blackness and white supremacy are hugely important.”
She
added: "Every presidential candidate should expect to hear from us and
should expect to be held to accountable to their views on Black Lives
Matter.”
Jones
said Clinton’s assertion that “you can’t change hearts” is an
“admission that she doesn’t want to challenge the heart of bigotry —
this idea that hardcore bigots are just unmovable.”
In June, Clinton was criticized by some for saying “all lives matter” during a speech in Florissant, Mo., less than 5 miles from Ferguson.
Last month, former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley apologized for using the same phrase after Black Lives Matter protesters interrupted his appearance at a Netroots Nation conference in Phoenix.
“That
was a mistake on my part, and I meant no disrespect,” O’Malley said in
an online interview after the event. “I did not mean to be insensitive
in any way or communicate that I did not understand the tremendous
passion, commitment and feeling and depth of feeling that all of us
should be attaching to this issue.”
Last week’s private meeting with Clinton came two days after Black Lives Matter activists disrupted Sanders’ speech in Seattle.
Hours later, the Sanders campaign introduced Symone Sanders, a black criminal justice advocate, as its new national press secretary.
“Black Lives Matter is a very, very serious issue,” Sanders said in a recent interview with the New York Times Magazine.
“And clearly, as a nation, we have to move away from a situation where
black women are dragged out of their cars, thrown to the ground,
assaulted and then die in jail three days later for the crime of not
signaling a lane change.
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